Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

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VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 23 Jewel 60 Hour with Scarce Loaner Case
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EXCELLENT 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH DIAL DOUBLE SUNK 319
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Illinois 18s Railroad 21j Bunn Special Pocket Watch Model 6 RUNNING 1912c
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Antique Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special Pocket Watch 1907 21J Gold Filled WORKS
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BEAUTIFUL ILLINOIS 23j BUNN SPECIAL MOTOR BARREL No RESERVE GOLD TRAIN
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1910 Illinois Bunn Special 21 Ruby Jeweled Movement Swing Out Case
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$199.00
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1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
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18 size Illinois Bunn Special 24 jewels working order gold plated case
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$58.91 (6 Bids)
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1922 Illinois 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Pocket Watch
1922 Illinois 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$995.00
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Great 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 21J 16 size WGF pocket watch Ca 1927 original
Great 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 21J 16 size WGF pocket watch Ca 1927 original
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Great 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 21J 16 size YGF pocket watch Ca 1929 original
Great 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 21J 16 size YGF pocket watch Ca 1929 original
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Great 23 J 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 16 size WGF pocket watch Ca 1925 original
Great 23 J 60 hr Bunn Special Illinois 16 size WGF pocket watch Ca 1925 original
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Great 18s 23 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special fancy damaskeened YGF pocket watch
Great 18s 23 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special fancy damaskeened YGF pocket watch
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BOLD BLINDMAN ILLINOIS 16S RR DIAL DS ENAMEL BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN MODS 7 14
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$0.99 (1 Bid)
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AMERICAS FAVORITE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 18S MODEL 6 MVMT 21J 6P SUNRAY DAMASCEE
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