Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
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Illonois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 2 Tone Gold
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VINTAGE ILLINOIS 16S 21 JEWEL TYPE I 60HR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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Antique ILLINOIS Bunn Special 21 Jewel Railroad Pocket Watch 10K Gold Filled
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ILLINOIS 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL SIZE 16 POCKET WATCH 21J ADJ TEMP
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ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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VINTAGE 1920 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 23 JEWELS POCKET WATCH needs service
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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18s 21j Illinois Bunn Special Rudy  Sapphire Pocket Watch Original Sales Tag
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$10.50 (2 Bids)
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1908 18 size ILLINOIS Railroad Gold Plated Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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$500.00
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16 Size 21 Jewel Illinois 60 Hr Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Type II
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$300.00
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16 Size 23 Jewel Illinois 60 Hr Bunn Special 163 Railroad Pocket Watch Type I
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Time Remaining: 1d 56m
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Rare Antique 21 Jewels 60 Hours Railroad Pocket Watch ILLINOIS Bunn Special
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$850.00
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 24 JEWEL 18s RARE PRIVATE LABEL RAILROAD WATCH
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Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Great Condition
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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels 4K GF Case Lever Set Stem Wind
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$680.00 (5 Bids)
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Illinois Bunn Special Ruby Jeweled Size 18 21 Jewel Pocket Watch 70481
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Rare Illinois BUNN Special 21 Jewel GF Vintage Pocket Watch Model 9 Size 16s
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$125.95 (10 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 17m

Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Watch 21 Jewel Open Face Vintage 1929
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$625.00
Time Remaining: 2d 38m
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ILLINOIS 16S 17J BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD GRADE POCKET WATCH 20YR GOLD FILLED CASE
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$1,580.00 (30 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 4h 30m

Rare Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 16 Size 23 Jewel C1929
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$275.00 (12 Bids)
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1928 Vintage Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 60 Hour Railroad Type III Great Cond
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$56.00 (9 Bids)
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BUNN SPECIAL TYPE III 60 HOUR MOTOR BARREL 21 JEWEL ADJ 6 POSITIONS 14K GF CASE
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$1,300.00
Time Remaining: 2d 7h 54m
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Time Remaining: 2d 18h 29m
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J 60 HR GF OF
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE
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Vintage 1923 Bunn Special gold gear train gold jewl sets 100 original case
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$500.00
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 38m
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Illinois 18s 21J Bunn Special Railroad Approved YGF Pocket Watch
Illinois 18s 21J Bunn Special Railroad Approved YGF Pocket Watch
$295.00
Time Remaining: 3d 4h 26m

Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 60 HOUR Bunn Special Case RUNS
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 60 HOUR Bunn Special Case RUNS
$233.50 (22 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 4h 30m

Illinois Bunn Special 21J Sixty hour 10 k gold filled mechanical hand winding
Illinois Bunn Special 21J Sixty hour 10 k gold filled mechanical hand winding
$299.00
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MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
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Illinois Bunn Special with DR initials on movement indicating double roller
Illinois Bunn Special with DR initials on movement indicating double roller
$250.00
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 38m

1918 Illinois Bunn Special Size 16 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG109
1918 Illinois Bunn Special Size 16 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG109
$450.00
Time Remaining: 3d 16h 55m
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Screw Assortment for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Screw Assortment for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$55.00
Time Remaining: 3d 18h 55m
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Pillar Main plate for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Pillar Main plate for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$95.00
Time Remaining: 3d 18h 58m
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Train Bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Train Bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$50.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 3m
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Center wheel with Cannon Pinion for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Center wheel with Cannon Pinion for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$60.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 17m
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1921 Illinois 16 Size Open Face Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
1921 Illinois 16 Size Open Face Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
$449.99
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 18m
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Winding Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Winding Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 22m
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Clutch Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Clutch Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 26m
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VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOIS 2 TONE BUNN SPECIAL SWING OUT POCKET WATCH FROM 1901
VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOIS 2 TONE BUNN SPECIAL SWING OUT POCKET WATCH FROM 1901
$325.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 29m
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Third Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Third Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 30m
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Forth Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Forth Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$55.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 32m
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Escape Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Escape Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$55.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 34m
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Crown Washer for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Crown Washer for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$40.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 39m
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Pallet Fork with Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Pallet Fork with Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$65.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 42m
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Pallet Fork bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Pallet Fork bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$65.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 47m
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Minute wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Minute wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 50m
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Hour wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Hour wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 52m
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Setting Lever for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Setting Lever for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$55.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 55m
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