Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

Illinois Watch Company Model 6 Bunn Special Pocket Watch
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47309 16s ALL BUNN SPECIAL 60HR MODELS
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FABULOUS 1926 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MOTOR BARREL IN BUNN SPECIAL CASE
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3 ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47309 16s ALL BUNN SPECIAL 60HR MODELS 1333 ea
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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1928 23J 60hr ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MONTGOMERY DIAL Two Tone 14K GF
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$350.00
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$76.00 (10 Bids)
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Very Rare Illinois 23 JBunn Special MARKED EXTRA
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VINTAGE POCKET WATCH 1912 18S ILLINOIS 23 RUBY JEWELS BUNN SPECIAL 6ADJ
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$9.99
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16s Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 60 hour Main Springs Nervinca 47302 T Exact
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VERY FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 18S BLUE MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
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$0.99 (2 Bids)
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Illinois Bunn Special movement shipping case
Illinois Bunn Special movement shipping case
$100.00 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 4h 15m

1912 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Railroad Pocket Watch S18 21 Jewel
1912 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Railroad Pocket Watch S18 21 Jewel
$700.00
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ILLINOIS Pocket WatchHunter CaseS1821 Jewel BUNN SPECIALAdj 6DoubleRoller
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Beautiful Illinois Bunn Special 21 J 60 H 14K Gold filled Pocket Watch
Beautiful Illinois Bunn Special 21 J 60 H 14K Gold filled Pocket Watch
$400.00
Time Remaining: 3d 9h 52m

Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
$245.50 (33 Bids)
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Rare High Jewel 24 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
Rare High Jewel 24 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
$1,375.00
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STUNNING 1927 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60HR 21J 14K G FILLED POCKET WATCH WORKING
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$1,056.96
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Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique 1902
Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique 1902
$1,850.00
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$225.00
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16 size Illinois railroad pocket pocket watch 60 hour  6 adj Bunn Special
16 size Illinois railroad pocket pocket watch 60 hour 6 adj Bunn Special
$152.50 (10 Bids)
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ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
$499.99
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ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR 16s 23j RAILROAD GRADE 28 GF Case
ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR 16s 23j RAILROAD GRADE 28 GF Case
$1,325.00
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14K GOLD 18S 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Hunter Case
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$3,099.00
Time Remaining: 4d 5h 57m
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 14k SOLID GOLD HUNTER CASE SIZE 18s GREAT LOOKING
ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 14k SOLID GOLD HUNTER CASE SIZE 18s GREAT LOOKING
$3,150.00
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1923 Illinois 16 size 21 jewel Bunn Special
1923 Illinois 16 size 21 jewel Bunn Special
$495.00
Time Remaining: 4d 9h 58m
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Near mint 60 hr motor barrel 21 J Bunn Special Illinois 16 s pocket watch 1928
Near mint 60 hr motor barrel 21 J Bunn Special Illinois 16 s pocket watch 1928
$500.00
Time Remaining: 4d 11h 53m

OPEN FACE LEVER SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS 60 HOURS
OPEN FACE LEVER SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS 60 HOURS
$62.67 (27 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 12h 48m

Illinois 16 Size 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Mainsprings 79Y
Illinois 16 Size 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Mainsprings 79Y
$14.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 4d 12h 50m

ILLINOIS RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 21J BUNN SPECIAL WORKS KEEPS TIME
ILLINOIS RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 21J BUNN SPECIAL WORKS KEEPS TIME
$299.95
Time Remaining: 4d 12h 56m
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Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special DR NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 107Y
Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special DR NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 107Y
$20.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 13h 17m

ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 4d 13h 44m
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21j GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21j GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$664.05
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ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47331 16s  WHITE ALLOY  SANGAMO  BUNN SPECIAL MOD
ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47331 16s WHITE ALLOY SANGAMO BUNN SPECIAL MOD
$19.95
Time Remaining: 4d 20h 43m
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ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47326 16s  WHITE ALLOY  BUNN SPECIAL MOD EXCEPT 60Hr
ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47326 16s WHITE ALLOY BUNN SPECIAL MOD EXCEPT 60Hr
$19.95
Time Remaining: 4d 20h 47m
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Lot of 16s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
Lot of 16s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
$171.76
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Lot of 18s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
Lot of 18s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
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