Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

1918 Illinois Bunn Special Mens Pocket Watch21 jewel 3381918
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Hour wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
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Train Bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
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Setting Lever spring for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
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1912 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Railroad Pocket Watch S18 21 Jewel
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1928 Illinois Bunn Special 60 HR 16s 23 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG126
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$1,900.00
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1923 Illinois Bunn Special 16 Size 23 Jwl Glass Back Display Pocket Watch NG129
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels 4K GF Case Lever Set Stem Wind
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A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND 18s 24 JEWELS Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
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Lot of 16s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
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Lot of 18s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
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ILLINOIS 23j BUNN SPECIAL MODEL 11 MOTOR BARREL IN MINT CONDITION
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