Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 1929 23J 60hr 10K gold filled open face RAILROAD
ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 1929 23J 60hr 10K gold filled open face RAILROAD
$1,000.00
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Beautiful 24 Jewels Illinois Bunn Special Gold Filled Pocket Watch Pocketwatch
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J 60 HR GF OF
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE
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Illinois 60 hour Bunn Special 21j 14KWGF Case Very Nice and Clean Runs
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ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL  RARE  24  JEWELS 18 S DBL SUNK DIAL
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ILLINOIS 18S BUNN SPECIAL 17 JEWEL 1 OF ONLY 500
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1925 Illinois 21j 16s Pocket Watch Clean Dial RUNS Bunn Special 60hr Vintage N1
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VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKETWATCH 21 JEWEL
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Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Great Condition
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$599.00
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Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Watch 21 Jewel Open Face Vintage 1929
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$625.00
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$325.00
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10K Gold Filled Bunn Special Pocket Watch
10K Gold Filled Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$285.00
Time Remaining: 2d 1h 47m

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Illinois Bunn Special 16s 21j GF
$34.00 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 2h 9m

Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 6 Positions 2857682 Silver Tone Star Pocket Watch
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$400.00
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MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
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REPRODUCTION ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MONTGOMERY 18S POCKET WATCH DIAL
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Time Remaining: 2d 3h 33m

Pocket Watch Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels
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$250.00
Time Remaining: 2d 5h 35m

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$700.00
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$190.00
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$1,450.00
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VINTAGE 16S ILLNOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1923 RAILROAD MONTGOMERY
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$500.00
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 7m

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$9.99
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 57m

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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels 4K GF Case Lever Set Stem Wind
$295.00
Time Remaining: 2d 22h 21m

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Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Great Condition
$599.00
Time Remaining: 2d 22h 21m

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$9.99
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$112.50 (24 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 23h 9m
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Grade Pocket Watch 10K Gold Filled Good Condition
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$86.00 (6 Bids)
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SUPERB RARE 1923 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21JEWELS 10K GOLD FILLED POCKET WATCH
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$1,126.38
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VINTAGE POCKET WATCH 1922 21J 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL RUNS A+ GF CASE
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$99.99 (55 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 3h 24m

Illinois Bunn Special Ruby Jeweled Size 18 21 Jewel Pocket Watch 70481
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$800.00
Time Remaining: 3d 16h 38m

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pocket watch 60 hour 21j bunn special
$113.61 (3 Bids)
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Vintage Illinois BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel Pocket Watch WORKS
$295.00
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18 SIZE ILLINOIS 23 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL 3 OUNCE STERLING CASE
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$750.00
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ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
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$899.99
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 38m

VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
$225.00
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VINTAGE 1920 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 23 JEWELS POCKET WATCH needs service
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$899.99
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WORKING 1923 ILLINOIS 16S 21J GOLD OPEN FACE BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH
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$130.25 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 23h 48m

Illinois 18s 23 Jewel Bunn Special with a BB Peer 20 year Case
Illinois 18s 23 Jewel Bunn Special with a BB Peer 20 year Case
$105.50 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d

1926 27 Illinois Watch Co Pocket Watch Bunn Special 21 Jewel 60 Hour w chain
1926 27 Illinois Watch Co Pocket Watch Bunn Special 21 Jewel 60 Hour w chain
$103.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 25m

Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 24 Ruby Jewel Movt 18 Size Antique 1907
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 24 Ruby Jewel Movt 18 Size Antique 1907
$1,775.00
Time Remaining: 4d 1h 3m
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 60 Hour 21 Jewel Vintage 1926
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 60 Hour 21 Jewel Vintage 1926
$620.00
Time Remaining: 4d 1h 4m
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch in Model 28 Case 23 Jewel Triple Signed
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch in Model 28 Case 23 Jewel Triple Signed
$2,200.00
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Illinois Bunn special pocket watch 21 Jewel Railroad train case
Illinois Bunn special pocket watch 21 Jewel Railroad train case
$123.50 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 1h 15m

Vintage 1899 Illinois Watch Co 21 Jewels Bunn Special Pocket Watch + 1 Chain
Vintage 1899 Illinois Watch Co 21 Jewels Bunn Special Pocket Watch + 1 Chain
$600.00
Time Remaining: 4d 1h 55m
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Rare Illinois Railroad Watch 23 Jewel Bunn Special 18 Size Railroad Case Antique
Rare Illinois Railroad Watch 23 Jewel Bunn Special 18 Size Railroad Case Antique
$950.00
Time Remaining: 4d 2h 11m
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VINTAGE ILLINOIS 16S 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS 60HR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
VINTAGE ILLINOIS 16S 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS 60HR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$220.00 (14 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 3h 12m

Vintage 1921 Model 9 Illinois Bunn Special Gold Filled Railroad Pocket Watch 21J
Vintage 1921 Model 9 Illinois Bunn Special Gold Filled Railroad Pocket Watch 21J
$51.00 (3 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 3h 23m

Bunn Special Pocket Watch with Bunn Special Model Case INV126
Bunn Special Pocket Watch with Bunn Special Model Case INV126
$350.00
Time Remaining: 4d 4h 10m

Rare Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 16 Size 23 Jewel C1929
Rare Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 16 Size 23 Jewel C1929
$2,200.00
Time Remaining: 4d 8h 21m
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Nice Illinois 16S 21 Jewel 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
Nice Illinois 16S 21 Jewel 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
$389.99
Time Remaining: 4d 10h 29m
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Antique 10k Gold Filled Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Pocket Watch Runs
Antique 10k Gold Filled Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Pocket Watch Runs
$260.55 (6 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 47m

1900 Illinois 24J Bunn Special 18s Pocket Watch 25 Yr GF Case Keeping Time
1900 Illinois 24J Bunn Special 18s Pocket Watch 25 Yr GF Case Keeping Time
$866.48
Time Remaining: 4d 20h 22m
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A GREAT 16s 23 Jewel 60 Hr Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Grade Pocket Watch
A GREAT 16s 23 Jewel 60 Hr Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Grade Pocket Watch
$2,100.00
Time Remaining: 4d 22h 9m
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Illinois 24J Bunn Special pocket watch 18 size locomotive back rf12815
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$135.00 (9 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 22h 26m

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