Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47330 16s SANGAMO SPECIAL  BUNN SPECIAL MODELS
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VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOS 21J BUNN SPECIAL 2 TONE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT FROM 1902
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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Illinois Bunn Special Double Roller 21 Jewel 16s Railroad Pocket Watch Running
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21 Jewel Bunn Special Illinois Pocket Watch 1919
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$155.00 (18 Bids)
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1924 Illinois Bunn Special Model Railroad Watch
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CRISP  VERSATILE ILLINOIS 16S DRESS RR DIAL BOLD ARABIC BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
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Atq Illinois Bunn Special 60 hr 18s 21 Jewel Gold Fill Railroad Pocket Watch
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Circa 1922 Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special 21 Jewel Movement 60 Hour Size 16
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Original 1923 Illinois Bunn 21 Jewel Special Just Serviced
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ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR 16s 23j RAILROAD GRADE 28 GF Case
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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels 4K GF Case Lever Set Stem Wind
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Illinois Bunn Special 23 Jewels Great Condition
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel 18 Size Antique C 1904
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 23 Jewel 60 Hour with Scarce Loaner Case
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Rare High Jewel 24 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
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Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique 1902
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Rare Illinois Railroad Watch 23 Jewel Bunn Special 18 Size Railroad Case Antique
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Illinois Antique Bunn Special 21J RAILROAD PW ca 1918 Fabulouse Cond Serviced
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 24 Ruby Jewel Movt 18 Size Antique 1907
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$1,775.00
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VERY FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 18S PLUM MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
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VERY FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 16S PLUM MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
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Illinois 16s 21J 161 Bunn Special 60 Hour Motor Barrel Railroad
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$1,225.00
Time Remaining: 1d 15h 3m
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18 S 21 Ruby Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Movement Running
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$125.00 (27 Bids)
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ILLINOIS 16 SZ 23 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL 163 RAILROAD POCKET WATCH FLYING J DIAL
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An Almost PERFECT 16 Size 23 Jewel 60 Hour 163 IL Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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1918 Illinois Bunn Special 21 Ruby Jewels Railroad Watch NEAR MINT CASE
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$152.51 (15 Bids)
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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$900.00 (25 Bids)
Time Remaining: 1d 16h 14m

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$175.50 (9 Bids)
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Extremely Rare Illinois Bunn Special 161 Elinvar Stamped 23 Jewel Pocket Watch
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$5,500.00
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1925 Illinois 21j 16s Pocket Watch Clean Dial RUNS Bunn Special 60hr Vintage N1
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A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND 18s 24 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH
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$1,507.50
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Antique 18 sz Sommer  Pierik BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch 21 Ruby Jewels w Chain
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$209.06 (19 Bids)
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Illinois Bunn Special Rail Road Pocket watch 60 hour Motor Size 16 RUNNING
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$599.00
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16 SIZE ILLINOIS 60 HOUR RAILROAD BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL GF OPEN FACE POCKETWATCH
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS 60 HOUR 16S BUNN SPECIAL 21J POCKET WATCH
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$249.95 (1 Bid)
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SCARCE 1896 24 jewel 18s ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL ANTIQUE POCKET WATCH
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Time Remaining: 2d 11h 52m

HR WHITE ALLOY ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 16 SIZE  47309 ALL BUNN SPECIAL 60HR MODELS
HR WHITE ALLOY ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 16 SIZE 47309 ALL BUNN SPECIAL 60HR MODELS
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RARE 23J HC 18S Bunn Special Jeweled Barrel Radiant Step Pattern
RARE 23J HC 18S Bunn Special Jeweled Barrel Radiant Step Pattern
$4,350.00
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XF CONDITION ILLINOIS 16S PLUM MATCHED WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN SANGAMO
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$0.99
Time Remaining: 2d 13h 56m

Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Model 161A 60 Hour 21 Jewel C1948
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Model 161A 60 Hour 21 Jewel C1948
$1,650.00
Time Remaining: 2d 16h 9m
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16s ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MONTGOMERY POCKET WATCH DIAL
16s ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MONTGOMERY POCKET WATCH DIAL
$31.00 (6 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 16h 25m

ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS RUBIES DOUBLE ROLLER ISOCHRONISM POCKET WATCH
ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS RUBIES DOUBLE ROLLER ISOCHRONISM POCKET WATCH
$16.38 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 16h 35m

Rare Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 16 Size 23 Jewel C1929
Rare Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 16 Size 23 Jewel C1929
$2,200.00
Time Remaining: 2d 16h 51m
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18 S 21 Ruby Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Movement Running
18 S 21 Ruby Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Movement Running
$135.00 (15 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 5h 12m

18 size bunn special 21 jewels pocket watch
18 size bunn special 21 jewels pocket watch
$105.00 (5 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 5h 28m

VINTAGE 16S ILLNOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1923 RAILROAD MONTGOMERY
VINTAGE 16S ILLNOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1923 RAILROAD MONTGOMERY
$300.00
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14K GOLD 18S 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Hunter Case
14K GOLD 18S 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Hunter Case
$3,099.00
Time Remaining: 3d 8h 27m
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Illinois Bunn Special 161A Elinvar 14k Yellow Gold Filled Case Pocketwatch
Illinois Bunn Special 161A Elinvar 14k Yellow Gold Filled Case Pocketwatch
$1,750.00
Time Remaining: 3d 12h 5m
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ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 3d 13h 12m
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Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch Elinvar 161
Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch Elinvar 161
$3,200.00
Time Remaining: 3d 13h 51m
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COLLECTIBLE TWO TONE ILLINOIS 18S BUNN SPECIAL MVMT 21J TEMP+6P RUNS GREAT TOO
COLLECTIBLE TWO TONE ILLINOIS 18S BUNN SPECIAL MVMT 21J TEMP+6P RUNS GREAT TOO
$125.00 (7 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 13h 58m

1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 18m
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EXTRA FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 16S PLUM MATCHED WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
EXTRA FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 16S PLUM MATCHED WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
$0.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 23m

GREAT LOOKING ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL FIRST MODEL 16S RR CASE 10K YGF TRADITION
GREAT LOOKING ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL FIRST MODEL 16S RR CASE 10K YGF TRADITION
$65.00 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 26m

RUNNING 1923 Illinois Bunn Special 21J 16S Railroad Grade Pocketwatch GF Case
RUNNING 1923 Illinois Bunn Special 21J 16S Railroad Grade Pocketwatch GF Case
$152.50 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 29m

1922 Illinois 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Pocket Watch
1922 Illinois 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$995.00
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 43m

Authentic Bunn Special Movement Open Face Pocket Watch Good No17
Authentic Bunn Special Movement Open Face Pocket Watch Good No17
$395.00
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 6m
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16s ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL DS POCKET WATCH DIAL
16s ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL DS POCKET WATCH DIAL
$15.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 30m

Illinois 16 Size Model Bunn Special NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 102H
Illinois 16 Size Model Bunn Special NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 102H
$31.55 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 36m

Superb Classic Illinois 23 Jewel Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
Superb Classic Illinois 23 Jewel Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
$294.00 (12 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 58m

1926 16S ILLINOIS SIXTY HOUR BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT LOT 1
1926 16S ILLINOIS SIXTY HOUR BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT LOT 1
$36.00 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 16h 28m

Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$499.98
Time Remaining: 3d 16h 28m

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