Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique 1902
Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique 1902
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S 21J 1921 RAILROAD GRADE ANTIQUE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT
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Illinois watch company pocket watch 21 Ruby jewel Bunn Special
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ILLINOIS  60 HOUR  21 jewel  BUNN SPECIAL BEAUTIFUL 10K GF CASE
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18S 21 J Bunn Special Open Face Crisp 2 Tone Pocket Movement Running Part Repair
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1900 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 18 S GF OF LEVER SET
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BUNN SPECIAL MODEL HAYWORTH QUALITY 10K GF16S POCKET WATCH CASE
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Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 21 Jewell Railroad Watch
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$250.00
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16 SIZE 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL WRISTWATCH
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MODERN SLEEK SLENDER ILLINOIS CASE MODEL 118 STAR 16S CASE 10K YGF BUNN SPECIAL
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Illinois 16s 21J Bunn Special Railroad Grade YGF Open Face Pocket Watch
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$275.00
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Atq Illinois Bunn Special 16s 21 Jewel Gold Fill Railroad Pocket Watch
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$200.00 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 1d 19h 39m

Antique 16S Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels Pocket Watch
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$269.00
Time Remaining: 1d 23h 43m

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Illinois Bunn Special 21j Serviced Two Tone fancy Case Keystone
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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Time Remaining: 2d 5h 36m

Antique Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special Pocket Watch 1907 21J Gold Filled WORKS
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1904 Illinois Watch Co Bunn special Pocket watch
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$500.00
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EXCELLENT 1927 60HR ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL LOCOMOTIVE CSE RAILROAD GRADE 16SZ
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$218.50 (16 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 58m

Illinois 24 Jewel Bunn Special Model 5 Antique VTG RR Railroad Pocket Watch
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$2,000.00
Time Remaining: 2d 22h 22m
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$1,800.00
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Bunn Special Illinois Triple Sunk Dial 21 J Movement 18s Pocket Watch  1520060
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Time Remaining: 2d 23h 33m

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$1,525.00
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Illinois 16 Size SANGAMO SPECIAL  BUNN SPECIAL Blued PW Mainsprings 11C
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$24.99
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 11m

Illinois BUNN SPECIAL Contract JS JAMES INC SPECIAL Railroad Dial 34C
Illinois BUNN SPECIAL Contract JS JAMES INC SPECIAL Railroad Dial 34C
$11.00 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 25m

Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Enamel Pocket Watch Dial 5C
Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Enamel Pocket Watch Dial 5C
$20.50 (3 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 31m

ILLINOIS 16S 21J BUNN SPECIAL GORGEOUS WATCH  VERY CLEAN
ILLINOIS 16S 21J BUNN SPECIAL GORGEOUS WATCH VERY CLEAN
$225.00
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 35m
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Scarce Illinois 2 Time Zone Railroad Pocket Watch with Bunn Special 24 Jewel Mov
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$1,600.00
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 37m
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PRISTINE SUPER ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S 23J RR MVMT SPOTLESS HOLDS RR
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$190.50 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 38m

Illinois Bunn Special 60 Railroad Pocket Watch Vintage CA1925 with 21 Jewel Movt
Illinois Bunn Special 60 Railroad Pocket Watch Vintage CA1925 with 21 Jewel Movt
$700.00
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 28m
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Illinois 18s 21j Bunn Special 2 Tone W 14K Multi Colored Box Hinge Case W Stag
Illinois 18s 21j Bunn Special 2 Tone W 14K Multi Colored Box Hinge Case W Stag
$3,285.00
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 32m

Illinois railroad pocket watch 21 jewels Bunn Special c1922 23 goldfill
Illinois railroad pocket watch 21 jewels Bunn Special c1922 23 goldfill
$450.00
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 43m

Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special 23 Jewel Lever Set Gold Plated Size 18
Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special 23 Jewel Lever Set Gold Plated Size 18
$213.50 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 45m

24 jewel Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch excellent condition
24 jewel Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch excellent condition
$900.00
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 47m

1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
$749.99
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 19m
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1918 Illinois Bunn Special Double Roller pocketwatch
1918 Illinois Bunn Special Double Roller pocketwatch
$99.00
Time Remaining: 3d 18h 22m

Antique Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels  Pocket Watch
Antique Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels Pocket Watch
$280.00
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 36m
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
$1,145.00
Time Remaining: 3d 20h 1m
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VINTAGE 16S ILLNOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1923 RAILROAD MONTGOMERY
VINTAGE 16S ILLNOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1923 RAILROAD MONTGOMERY
$300.00
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 6m
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Illinois Bunn Special 23 J Dial only 16 size for 163 and 163A movements
Illinois Bunn Special 23 J Dial only 16 size for 163 and 163A movements
$1,100.00
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 13m
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Vintage Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 14kt solid gold Hunter Case
Vintage Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 14kt solid gold Hunter Case
$2,499.99
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 51m
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1899 Illinois 24 Ruby Jewel Bunn Special Model 5 Antique RR Railroad Pocketwatch
1899 Illinois 24 Ruby Jewel Bunn Special Model 5 Antique RR Railroad Pocketwatch
$1,850.00
Time Remaining: 3d 23h 8m
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Vintage Illinois Pocket Watch 60 Hour Bunn Special
Vintage Illinois Pocket Watch 60 Hour Bunn Special
$400.00
Time Remaining: 4d 2h 22m

Illinois Bunn Special  Sangamo Wallet Watch Inspectors JOWSLEY CHICKASHA OK
Illinois Bunn Special Sangamo Wallet Watch Inspectors JOWSLEY CHICKASHA OK
$36.00 (5 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 2h 23m

EXCELLENT 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH HANDS WJ7
EXCELLENT 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH HANDS WJ7
$5.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 4d 3h 33m

RARE ILLINOIS 16S 60HR TYPE 1 BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT WJ3
RARE ILLINOIS 16S 60HR TYPE 1 BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT WJ3
$20.49 (3 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 3h 52m

14K WGF 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH CASE WJ8
14K WGF 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH CASE WJ8
$41.00 (7 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 4h 13m

ILLINOIS WATCH Co BUNN SPECIAL USA 16 SIZE 21 JEWELS POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT 1921
ILLINOIS WATCH Co BUNN SPECIAL USA 16 SIZE 21 JEWELS POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT 1921
$355.00 (9 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 4h 43m

Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 60 Hour Pocket Watch Railroad GF
Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel 60 Hour Pocket Watch Railroad GF
$699.99
Time Remaining: 4d 18h 34m
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Illinois Bunn Special24 J 18 SizeAdj
Illinois Bunn Special24 J 18 SizeAdj
$899.99
Time Remaining: 4d 18h 38m

VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
$225.00
Time Remaining: 4d 23h 19m
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Extremely Rare Illinois Bunn Special 161 Elinvar Stamped 23 Jewels Pocket Watch
Extremely Rare Illinois Bunn Special 161 Elinvar Stamped 23 Jewels Pocket Watch
$8,500.00
Time Remaining: 5d 15m
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