Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

24 jewel Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch excellent condition
24 jewel Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch excellent condition
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VINTAGE 10KGF ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 163A 23 JEWELS RUNNING POCKET WATCH
VINTAGE 10KGF ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 163A 23 JEWELS RUNNING POCKET WATCH
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Time Remaining: 2h 49m

1920 Illinois Bunn Special 16s 23 Jewel Railroad Grade GF Pocket Watch NG155
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VINTAGE ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL 14K GGF 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
VINTAGE ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL 14K GGF 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$745.00 (24 Bids)
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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Antique Illinois 18s Bunn Special 21 Jewel Railroad Pocket Watch c1905 Running
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VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOIS 2 TONE BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH CHOO CHOO CASE 1897
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ILLINOIS  21 jewel 60 HOUR  BUNN SPECIAL  14 k WGF BUNN CASE NICE ONE
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Illinois Railroad BUNN SPECIAL 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10K Gold Filled 21 Jewel
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$162.09 (6 Bids)
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$137.50 (12 Bids)
Time Remaining: 1d 13h

Scarce Illinois 2 Time Zone Railroad Pocket Watch with Bunn Special 24 Jewel Mov
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VERY FINE VINTAGE 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HR MOTOR BARREL BUNN SPECIAL CASE
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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels 4K GF Case Lever Set Stem Wind
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$239.00
Time Remaining: 2d 6h 23m

RARE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 RUBY JEWELS SIZE 16 RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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$1,000.00
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Illinois Pocket Watch Mod 11 16S Bunn Special 21J OF 6P 3 4 Runs Strong
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$399.00
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$114.48 (13 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 12h 15m

Illinois Antique Gold Plated Pocket Watch Motor Barrel 21 Jewels Bunn Special
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$330.00
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21J 60 HR POCKET WATCH 16 SIZE YELLOW G F CASE
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$376.00 (14 Bids)
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MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
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Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 1906 Antique 21 Jewel Gold Plated Pocket Watch
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Time Remaining: 3d 6h 38m

16 Size 60 Hour Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special Railroad Model 29
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$1,299.99
Time Remaining: 3d 7h 25m
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10k Yellow Gold Filled Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 21 Jewels with Fob
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$905.00
Time Remaining: 3d 8h 45m
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ILLINOIS 21J 60HR BUNN SPECIAL PORCELAIN DOUBLE SUNK DIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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Time Remaining: 3d 17h 33m
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$154.41 (7 Bids)
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16 SIZE 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL WRISTWATCH
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$625.00
Time Remaining: 4d 2h 7m

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$205.06 (10 Bids)
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$1,325.00
Time Remaining: 4d 10h 36m
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Time Remaining: 4d 10h 37m
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23 Jewel 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
$1,749.00
Time Remaining: 4d 10h 37m
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR POCKET WATCH GF OF 21J
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$399.00
Time Remaining: 4d 12h 1m
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Illinois Bunn Special 24 Jewel Pocket Watch
Illinois Bunn Special 24 Jewel Pocket Watch
$3,300.00
Time Remaining: 4d 12h 31m

Illinois Bunn Special 21J Rail Road grade Antique pre 1920
Illinois Bunn Special 21J Rail Road grade Antique pre 1920
$325.00
Time Remaining: 4d 13h 20m

A FINE BUNN SPECIAL 161 in WHITE GOLD FILLED CASE from 1931
A FINE BUNN SPECIAL 161 in WHITE GOLD FILLED CASE from 1931
$159.50 (5 Bids)
Time Remaining: 5d 2h 28m

Illinois Watch Company BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel ADJUSTED TEMP AND SIX POSITIONS
Illinois Watch Company BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel ADJUSTED TEMP AND SIX POSITIONS
$495.00
Time Remaining: 5d 6h 28m
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Antique Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special Pocket Watch 1907 21J Gold Filled WORKS
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$325.00
Time Remaining: 5d 16h 19m
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Illinois Bunn Special 18s excellent all original working keeps great time c1913
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$500.00
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 50m
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1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
$749.99
Time Remaining: 6d 2h 8m
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16s 23j Illinois Watch Co Flying J Bunn Special 60 Hour Pocket Watch Dial
16s 23j Illinois Watch Co Flying J Bunn Special 60 Hour Pocket Watch Dial
$12.99
Time Remaining: 6d 6h 5m
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Illinois 16 Size 1560 47633 DR Balance Staff for Bunn Special
Illinois 16 Size 1560 47633 DR Balance Staff for Bunn Special
$9.99
Time Remaining: 6d 6h 8m

1920 Illinois 21 Jewels Lever Set Bunn Special Runs Pocket Watch Railroad No 42
1920 Illinois 21 Jewels Lever Set Bunn Special Runs Pocket Watch Railroad No 42
$200.00
Time Remaining: 6d 7h 17m

VINTAGE ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL TYPE III 60HR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
VINTAGE ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL TYPE III 60HR BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$295.00
Time Remaining: 6d 8h 2m

16 size Illinois 21 jewel Bunn Special in green gold filled bunn special case
16 size Illinois 21 jewel Bunn Special in green gold filled bunn special case
$350.00
Time Remaining: 6d 10h 48m

1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 6d 11h 11m
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1903 Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch  21 Ruby Jewels  It works
1903 Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 21 Ruby Jewels It works
$60.99 (3 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 12h

1923 Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 16s 21j M9 Gold Filled Flip Case
1923 Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 16s 21j M9 Gold Filled Flip Case
$4.25 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 12h

ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 6d 12h 23m
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Antique ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel Model 9 16S Railroad Pocket Watch 1915
Antique ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel Model 9 16S Railroad Pocket Watch 1915
$5.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 13h 9m

Antique Pocket Watch Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Railroad Model 9
Antique Pocket Watch Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Railroad Model 9
$0.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 6d 15h 13m

Illinois Bunn Special 21jewel 10k Gold filled Pocket watch
Illinois Bunn Special 21jewel 10k Gold filled Pocket watch
$295.00
Time Remaining: 7d 23m
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Antique Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Triple Sunk 21 Jewel Circa 1918 Model 6
Antique Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Triple Sunk 21 Jewel Circa 1918 Model 6
$600.00
Time Remaining: 7d 7h 25m
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Illinois Bunn Special 60 Hour 21 Jewel Box Car Railroad RR Dial Pocket Watch
Illinois Bunn Special 60 Hour 21 Jewel Box Car Railroad RR Dial Pocket Watch
$450.00
Time Remaining: 7d 7h 28m
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A VERY CLEAN  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 163 60Hr Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
A VERY CLEAN COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 163 60Hr Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
$2,375.00
Time Remaining: 8d 10h 9m
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Vintage Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch 60 hour mainspring NOS factory pack
Vintage Illinois Bunn Special pocket watch 60 hour mainspring NOS factory pack
$19.99
Time Remaining: 8d 12h 25m
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1925 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special 21 jewels 10K Gold filled Pocket Watch w Fob
1925 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special 21 jewels 10K Gold filled Pocket Watch w Fob
$750.00
Time Remaining: 9d 1h 8m
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A TRULY WONDERFUL TIMEKEEPER  A GREAT WATCH 18s 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL PW
A TRULY WONDERFUL TIMEKEEPER A GREAT WATCH 18s 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL PW
$1,550.00
Time Remaining: 9d 5h 12m
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A VERY COLLECTABLE  ESPECIALLY WELL MAINTAINED 18s 24 JEWELS BUNN SPECIAL PW
A VERY COLLECTABLE ESPECIALLY WELL MAINTAINED 18s 24 JEWELS BUNN SPECIAL PW
$1,550.00
Time Remaining: 9d 5h 23m
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RARE 21j Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Rose Gold Color Hinged Case
RARE 21j Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Rose Gold Color Hinged Case
$349.00
Time Remaining: 9d 7h 15m
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