Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

UNUSUAL custom dial 1921 BUNN SPECIAL 21J Hi Grade RR WATCH ESTATE
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Illinois Bunn Special 21j BUY IT NOW
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$10.50 (2 Bids)
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Illinois Watch Co 16 size Bunn Special complete balance wheel for 21j or 23j
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$25.00 (1 Bid)
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$10.00 (1 Bid)
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$25.00 (1 Bid)
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1913 US Illinois Bunn Special PocketWatch 23j Size18 2529707 Manual Wind Runs
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1929 Illinois Bunn Special 60HR 16s 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG430
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SHARP SPOTLESS DEAD ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 18S 21J 6P RR MVMT CLASSIC RR
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XF CONDITION ILLINOIS 18S BLUE MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN MS 4
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$273.00 (30 Bids)
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Antique Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special Pocket Watch 1907 21J Gold Filled WORKS
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$325.00
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1928 Illinois 60 Hour Bunn Special Railroad Grade 16 Size 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
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$641.24
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Illinois BUNN SPECIAL Enamel Railroad Dial 28Y
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$15.46 (3 Bids)
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Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Blued Plum Hands 50Y
$6.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 2d 19h 39m

Illinois BUNN SPECIAL Enamel Railroad Dial 49Y
Illinois BUNN SPECIAL Enamel Railroad Dial 49Y
$15.96 (3 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 19h 59m

Illinois 23 jewel 60 hour Bunn Special High Grade Railroad Pocket Watch RARE
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$798.00 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 2d 19h 59m

Illinois 16 Size BUNN SPECIAL Enamel Railroad Dial 12Y
Illinois 16 Size BUNN SPECIAL Enamel Railroad Dial 12Y
$9.99
Time Remaining: 2d 20h 26m

Circa 1925 ILLINOIS Bunn Special 21j 16s 14K Gold Filled Railroad Pocket Watch
Circa 1925 ILLINOIS Bunn Special 21j 16s 14K Gold Filled Railroad Pocket Watch
$50.50 (11 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h

Circa 1927 ILLINOIS Bunn Special Type III 60 Hour Railroad Pocket Watch
Circa 1927 ILLINOIS Bunn Special Type III 60 Hour Railroad Pocket Watch
$213.50 (11 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h

PERFECT CONDITION ILLINOIS BLINDMAN ARROWS IN 16S DIAL BUNN SPECIAL SANGAMO SPEC
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Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Steel Case Screws 52Y
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$6.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 12m

SPARKLING DEAD ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR TYPE III 16S RR MVMT GOTRR
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$102.50 (21 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 17m

Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Blued Plum Hands 29Y
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$11.00 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 19m

Illinois Bunn Special 21J Vintage Railroad Grade Pocket Watch Ticking
Illinois Bunn Special 21J Vintage Railroad Grade Pocket Watch Ticking
$125.00 (10 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 25m

IMMACULATE DEAD ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S RR MVMT 21J 6P BRIGHT GOT RR
IMMACULATE DEAD ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S RR MVMT 21J 6P BRIGHT GOT RR
$15.50 (3 Bids)
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ELEGANT TWO TONE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL FIRST MODEL 16S RR CASE 14K GF
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$100.99 (6 Bids)
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16s BUNN SPECIAL SIXTY HOUR w ARROWS OUT DIAL ORIGINAL CASE NO RESERVE 1
16s BUNN SPECIAL SIXTY HOUR w ARROWS OUT DIAL ORIGINAL CASE NO RESERVE 1
$301.00 (31 Bids)
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FINE c1929 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL ILLINOIS WATCH CO 21J 6 ADJ GOLD F POCKET WATCH
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Antique Illinois Bunn Special Railroad 21 Jewel Circa 1901 Model 6
Antique Illinois Bunn Special Railroad 21 Jewel Circa 1901 Model 6
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ILLINOIS 21J 60HR BUNN SPECIAL PORCELAIN DOUBLE SUNK DIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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$620.00
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$149.50 (27 Bids)
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS 16 SIZE BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL POCKET WATCH 10 K GF
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$85.00 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 36m

ILLINOIS 16S BUNN SPECIAL MODELS MOON HANDS
ILLINOIS 16S BUNN SPECIAL MODELS MOON HANDS
$28.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 21h 44m

Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 23 Jewel 60 Hour with Scarce Loaner Case
Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 23 Jewel 60 Hour with Scarce Loaner Case
$3,100.00
Time Remaining: 3d 23h 58m
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Illions 16s 21j Bunn Special adjusts 6 positions Yellow Gold Filled Pocket Watch
Illions 16s 21j Bunn Special adjusts 6 positions Yellow Gold Filled Pocket Watch
$200.00
Time Remaining: 4d 15h 5m

1913 Illinois 16 S 21 J RR Bunn Special Fish Scale Pocket Watch Movement
1913 Illinois 16 S 21 J RR Bunn Special Fish Scale Pocket Watch Movement
$213.00 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 16h 4m

MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
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RARE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 RUBY JEWELS SIZE 16 RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
RARE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 RUBY JEWELS SIZE 16 RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$1,000.00
Time Remaining: 4d 16h 47m
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NICE 16 size 21 J Illinois Bunn Special with Sharp Montgomery dial
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$195.00
Time Remaining: 4d 18h 11m

RARE 1907 Illinois Bunn Special 24 Ruby Jewels 18s Model 6 14K Gold Pocketwatch
RARE 1907 Illinois Bunn Special 24 Ruby Jewels 18s Model 6 14K Gold Pocketwatch
$280.00 (9 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 18h 15m

ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL Open Face Railroad POCKET WATCH LEVER SET
ILLINOIS 21 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL Open Face Railroad POCKET WATCH LEVER SET
$399.99
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 12m
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Illinois Bunn Special24 J 18 SizeAdj
Illinois Bunn Special24 J 18 SizeAdj
$799.99
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 17m
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1928 Illinois 16s 21 Jewel Bunn Special Model 29 60 Hour Pocket Watch AS IS
1928 Illinois 16s 21 Jewel Bunn Special Model 29 60 Hour Pocket Watch AS IS
$12.50 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 4d 20h 15m

Illinois Bunn Special 21J Rail Road grade Antique pre 1920
Illinois Bunn Special 21J Rail Road grade Antique pre 1920
$289.00
Time Remaining: 5d 17m

ANTIQUE 18 SIZE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21J POCKET WATCH ADJ TWO TONE PLATES
ANTIQUE 18 SIZE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21J POCKET WATCH ADJ TWO TONE PLATES
$550.00
Time Remaining: 5d 46m
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ILLINOIS RR WATCH BUNN SPECIAL
ILLINOIS RR WATCH BUNN SPECIAL
$329.99
Time Remaining: 5d 12h 36m

1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
$1,145.00
Time Remaining: 5d 13h 57m
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16 Size 60 Hour Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special Railroad Model 29
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$1,299.99
Time Remaining: 5d 17h 26m
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR POCKET WATCH GF OF 21J
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$349.00
Time Remaining: 5d 18h 5m
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel 161 Railroad 14k SOLID GOLD Case Pocket Watch
ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel 161 Railroad 14k SOLID GOLD Case Pocket Watch
$3,500.00
Time Remaining: 5d 19h 48m
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Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch 14K Gold Filled Case Type III 60 Hr
Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch 14K Gold Filled Case Type III 60 Hr
$91.00 (10 Bids)
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 6m

VINTAGE POCKET WATCH HANDS SET OF 3 PARTS REPAIR BUNN SPECIAL 16S PLUM MATCH
VINTAGE POCKET WATCH HANDS SET OF 3 PARTS REPAIR BUNN SPECIAL 16S PLUM MATCH
$39.95
Time Remaining: 6d 13h 42m
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VINTAGE POCKET WATCH HANDS SET OF 3 PARTS REPAIR ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S
VINTAGE POCKET WATCH HANDS SET OF 3 PARTS REPAIR ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S
$69.95
Time Remaining: 6d 13h 54m
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Vintage Antique 14kt Gold Filled Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Case Crystal
Vintage Antique 14kt Gold Filled Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Case Crystal
$12.49 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 15h 19m

A GREAT LOOKING  ACCURATE 18 SIZE 24 JEWELS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH
A GREAT LOOKING ACCURATE 18 SIZE 24 JEWELS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH
$1,550.00
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