Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

1929 Illinois Bunn Special 60HR 16s 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG430
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1902 Illinois Pocket Watch  Bunn Special
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ILLINOIS 21J 60HR BUNN SPECIAL PORCELAIN DOUBLE SUNK DIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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Time Remaining: 3d 20h 19m

1902 Illinois 21 Ruby Jewels Bunn Special 18s Two Tone Pocket Watch WORKING
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$199.00
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ILLINOIS 16S HANDS BUNN SPECIAL AND ETC MODELS
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1922 Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 16s 21J RR Grd GF Train Case Runs E3511
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16 Size 60 Hour Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special Railroad Model 29
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$1,299.99
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Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
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$330.00 (28 Bids)
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ILLINOIS 16S HANDS MOON BUNN SPECIAL AND ETC MODELS
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MUSEUM GRADE DEAD ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S RR MVMT 21J
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$327.87 (32 Bids)
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$152.50 (13 Bids)
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ILLINOIS 16S HANDS BUNN SPECIAL AND ETC MODELS
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$29.99
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 8m

XF CONDITION ILLINOIS 16S PLUM MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN SANGAM
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$0.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 21m

Antique Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special Pocket Watch 1907 21J Gold Filled WORKS
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$325.00
Time Remaining: 6d 2h 42m
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$175.00
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Illinois Bunn Special 24 Jewel Pocket Watch
$1,999.00
Time Remaining: 6d 9h 11m
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Illinois Watch Company BUNN SPECIAL 21 Jewel ADJUSTED TEMP AND SIX POSITIONS
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Time Remaining: 6d 19h 18m

Rare Antique 18s Railroad 21j Bunn Special Pocket Watch Mint Serviced
Rare Antique 18s Railroad 21j Bunn Special Pocket Watch Mint Serviced
$128.49 (36 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 19h 29m

GANG BUSTERS SUPER ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR TYPE III 16S 21J GOTRR
GANG BUSTERS SUPER ACCURATE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR TYPE III 16S 21J GOTRR
$73.00 (10 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 19h 41m

TOTAL CLASSIC ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL FIRST MODEL 16S RR CASE 10K YGF ALL BUNNS
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$1.25 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 20h 7m

Illinois 16s Bunn Special WGF Partial Case
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$90.00
Time Remaining: 6d 20h 22m

Rare Illinois 161 Bunn Special 21 Jewel Railroad Pocket Watch
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$3,800.00
Time Remaining: 6d 21h 23m
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Running Illinois Bunn Special Mod 9 16s 21j Watch 10K GF OF Keystone JBoss
Running Illinois Bunn Special Mod 9 16s 21j Watch 10K GF OF Keystone JBoss
$300.00
Time Remaining: 6d 21h 53m

Just Restored 16 Size Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Ca 1922 10k Y G F Case WOW
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$750.00
Time Remaining: 6d 23h 50m
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1921 ILLINOIS 16 SZ 23 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH GREEN GF CASE
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$895.00
Time Remaining: 7d 6h 21m
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Illinois Bunn Special 21jewel 10k Gold filled Pocket watch
$295.00
Time Remaining: 8d 8h 42m
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$450.00
Time Remaining: 8d 15h 47m
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18S Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
18S Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$31.00 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 9d 11h 19m

16 size illinois Bunn special
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$300.00
Time Remaining: 9d 17h 36m
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Working 1925 Illinois 60 Hr Bunn Special 21 jewels 10K GF Pocket Watch w Fob
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$750.00
Time Remaining: 10d 9h 27m
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Illinois Pocket Watch 60 Hr Bunn Special 10 Kt Gold Filled Vintagew Watch NIce
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$650.00
Time Remaining: 12d 11h 5m
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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$2,150.00
Time Remaining: 12d 14h 13m
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1926 Illinois BUNN Special 60 Hour 21 jewel Railroad Grade  Pocket Watch
1926 Illinois BUNN Special 60 Hour 21 jewel Railroad Grade Pocket Watch
$450.00
Time Remaining: 12d 17h
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Antique Illinois Bunn Special Railroad RR 21 Jewel 6 Positions Pocket Watch
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$600.00
Time Remaining: 12d 17h 40m
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