Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

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1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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VINTAGE 16 SIZE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH FROM 1921 RUNNING
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RARE 21j Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch Rose Gold Color Hinged Case
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1900 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 18 S GF OF LEVER SET
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RARE 18s 24j ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL ADJUSTED 6 POS ANTIQUE WATCH books 170000
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel 18 Size Antique C 1904
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Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Watch 23 Jewel 60 Hour with Scarce Loaner Case
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Illinois 60hr Bunn Special 21J 16S Railroad Grade Pocket Watch 1920 Montgomery
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16S 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL RAILROAD WATCH
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Vintage 1923 Bunn Special gold gear train gold jewl sets 100 original case
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23 jewel Bunn Special Illinois 16 size pocket watch 1923 Red lettering Bunn case
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1927 Illinois Railroad Grade WORKING BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch 21j 14kGF
1927 Illinois Railroad Grade WORKING BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch 21j 14kGF
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Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antiq
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Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Blued Pocket Watch Hands 12M
Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special Blued Pocket Watch Hands 12M
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1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
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Illinois Bunn Special Sixty Hour 21J 6ADJ Pocket Watch Yellow 14K Gold Filled
Illinois Bunn Special Sixty Hour 21J 6ADJ Pocket Watch Yellow 14K Gold Filled
$172.50 (6 Bids)
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Illinois 16 Size BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Movement 42M
Illinois 16 Size BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Movement 42M
$34.00 (8 Bids)
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Illinois 16 Size Steel BUNN SPECIAL Case Screws 19M
Illinois 16 Size Steel BUNN SPECIAL Case Screws 19M
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1918 Illinois Bunn Special Size 16 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG109
1918 Illinois Bunn Special Size 16 21 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG109
$450.00
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Screw Assortment for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Screw Assortment for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$55.00
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Pillar Main plate for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Pillar Main plate for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$95.00
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Train Bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Train Bridge for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
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Center wheel with Cannon Pinion for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Center wheel with Cannon Pinion for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$60.00
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1921 Illinois 16 Size Open Face Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
1921 Illinois 16 Size Open Face Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch
$449.99
Time Remaining: 6d 6h 45m
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Winding Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Winding Arbor for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
$35.00
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Clutch Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
Clutch Wheel for Illinois Bunn Special 16s Railroad Watch
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