Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

VINTAGE 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60HR ELINVAR 161A FROM 1932 CASE MODEL 29
VINTAGE 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60HR ELINVAR 161A FROM 1932 CASE MODEL 29
$950.00
Time Remaining: 8h 44m
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SCARCE VINTAGE 18S ILLINOIS NON MAGNETIC WATCH CO 24J BUNN SPECIAL HUNTING CASEB
SCARCE VINTAGE 18S ILLINOIS NON MAGNETIC WATCH CO 24J BUNN SPECIAL HUNTING CASEB
$1,250.00
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Illinois Bunn Special RARE 21Ruby Jewel 1928 16Size Sixty Hour Overhauled
Illinois Bunn Special RARE 21Ruby Jewel 1928 16Size Sixty Hour Overhauled
$415.00
Time Remaining: 13h 28m
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ILLINOIS Bunn Special 1904 18 size 21 Jewel Open Face Pocket Watch Serviced
ILLINOIS Bunn Special 1904 18 size 21 Jewel Open Face Pocket Watch Serviced
$185.00
Time Remaining: 14h 2m
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Lot of 4 16s Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 60 hour Dust Ring 3 different types
Lot of 4 16s Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 60 hour Dust Ring 3 different types
$9.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 17h 16m

16s Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 60 hour Main Springs Nervinca 47302 T Exact
16s Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 60 hour Main Springs Nervinca 47302 T Exact
$51.00 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 17h 31m

VERY FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 18S BLUE MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
VERY FINE CONDITION ILLINOIS 18S BLUE MATCHING WHIP HANDS BUNN SPECIAL ALINCOLN
$0.99 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 18h 3m

ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL21j 10k GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL21j 10k GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$80.50 (6 Bids)
Time Remaining: 1d 8h 46m

Illinois Bunn Special movement shipping case
Illinois Bunn Special movement shipping case
$100.00 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 1d 9h 29m

1912 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Railroad Pocket Watch S18 21 Jewel
1912 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Railroad Pocket Watch S18 21 Jewel
$700.00
Time Remaining: 1d 9h 56m
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ILLINOIS Pocket WatchHunter CaseS1821 Jewel BUNN SPECIALAdj 6DoubleRoller
ILLINOIS Pocket WatchHunter CaseS1821 Jewel BUNN SPECIALAdj 6DoubleRoller
$695.00
Time Remaining: 1d 15h 2m
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Beautiful Illinois Bunn Special 21 J 60 H 14K Gold filled Pocket Watch
Beautiful Illinois Bunn Special 21 J 60 H 14K Gold filled Pocket Watch
$400.00
Time Remaining: 1d 15h 5m

Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
$305.00 (37 Bids)
Time Remaining: 1d 17h 36m

Rare High Jewel 24 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
Rare High Jewel 24 Jewel Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch
$1,375.00
Time Remaining: 1d 17h 37m
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STUNNING 1927 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60HR 21J 14K G FILLED POCKET WATCH WORKING
STUNNING 1927 ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 60HR 21J 14K G FILLED POCKET WATCH WORKING
$1,056.36
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Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique
Rare Illinois Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch 24 Jewel Mint Dial Antique
$1,850.00
Time Remaining: 1d 18h 1m
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Vintage Illinois Bunn special 16s
Vintage Illinois Bunn special 16s
$225.00
Time Remaining: 1d 21h 48m

16 size Illinois railroad pocket pocket watch 60 hour  6 adj Bunn Special
16 size Illinois railroad pocket pocket watch 60 hour 6 adj Bunn Special
$157.50 (11 Bids)
Time Remaining: 1d 22h 1m

ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
ILLINOIS WATCH CO RAIL ROAD 23 BUNN SPECIAL LARGE SIZE 18 55MM
$499.99
Time Remaining: 2d 5h 30m

ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR 16s 23j RAILROAD GRADE 28 GF Case
ILLINOIS POCKET WATCH BUNN SPECIAL 60 HOUR 16s 23j RAILROAD GRADE 28 GF Case
$1,325.00
Time Remaining: 2d 8h 13m
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14K GOLD 18S 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Hunter Case
14K GOLD 18S 24J ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Hunter Case
$3,099.00
Time Remaining: 2d 11h 10m
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 14k SOLID GOLD HUNTER CASE SIZE 18s GREAT LOOKING
ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 14k SOLID GOLD HUNTER CASE SIZE 18s GREAT LOOKING
$3,150.00
Time Remaining: 2d 13h 24m
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1923 Illinois 16 size 21 jewel Bunn Special
1923 Illinois 16 size 21 jewel Bunn Special
$495.00
Time Remaining: 2d 15h 11m
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Near mint 60 hr motor barrel 21 J Bunn Special Illinois 16 s pocket watch 1928
Near mint 60 hr motor barrel 21 J Bunn Special Illinois 16 s pocket watch 1928
$500.00
Time Remaining: 2d 17h 7m

OPEN FACE LEVER SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS 60 HOURS
OPEN FACE LEVER SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWELS 60 HOURS
$71.00 (30 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 18h 1m

Illinois 16 Size 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Mainsprings 79Y
Illinois 16 Size 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL Pocket Watch Mainsprings 79Y
$14.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 2d 18h 4m

ILLINOIS RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 21J BUNN SPECIAL WORKS KEEPS TIME
ILLINOIS RAILROAD POCKET WATCH 21J BUNN SPECIAL WORKS KEEPS TIME
$299.95
Time Remaining: 2d 18h 10m
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Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special DR NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 107Y
Illinois 16 Size Bunn Special DR NOS Pocket Watch Balance Staffs 107Y
$20.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 18h 31m

ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s Type III 60 Hour Pocket Watch 10k YG Bunn Case + Monty
$729.00
Time Remaining: 2d 18h 57m
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21j GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21j GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
$564.44
Time Remaining: 2d 21h 22m
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ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47331 16s  WHITE ALLOY  SANGAMO  BUNN SPECIAL MOD
ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47331 16s WHITE ALLOY SANGAMO BUNN SPECIAL MOD
$19.95
Time Remaining: 3d 1h 56m
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ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47326 16s  WHITE ALLOY  BUNN SPECIAL MOD EXCEPT 60Hr
ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47326 16s WHITE ALLOY BUNN SPECIAL MOD EXCEPT 60Hr
$19.95
Time Remaining: 3d 2h
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Lot of 16s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
Lot of 16s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
$151.06
Time Remaining: 3d 3h 54m
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Lot of 18s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
Lot of 18s Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewel Pocket Watch Parts
$151.06
Time Remaining: 3d 3h 54m
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VINTAGE 16SILLINOIS 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL GREEN GOLD FILLED FROM 1927
VINTAGE 16SILLINOIS 60 HOUR BUNN SPECIAL GREEN GOLD FILLED FROM 1927
$550.00
Time Remaining: 3d 7h 42m
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21J 16S Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch with Unusual Pearly looking Dial
21J 16S Bunn Special Railroad Pocket Watch with Unusual Pearly looking Dial
$325.00
Time Remaining: 3d 9h 40m
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1928 Illinois Bunn Special 60 HR 16s 23 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG126
1928 Illinois Bunn Special 60 HR 16s 23 Jewel Gold Filled Pocket Watch NG126
$1,900.00
Time Remaining: 3d 10h 16m
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1923 Illinois Bunn Special 16 Size 23 Jwl Glass Back Display Pocket Watch NG129
1923 Illinois Bunn Special 16 Size 23 Jwl Glass Back Display Pocket Watch NG129
$1,900.00
Time Remaining: 3d 10h 16m
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10k Yellow Gold Filled Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 21 Jewels with Fob
10k Yellow Gold Filled Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 21 Jewels with Fob
$905.00
Time Remaining: 3d 12h 11m
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RARE 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Glass Enameled Montgomery Dial for 163 Models
RARE 16 size 23 jewel Bunn Special Glass Enameled Montgomery Dial for 163 Models
$1,300.00
Time Remaining: 3d 13h 36m
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RARE RARE 16 size 23j Bunn Special Glass Enameled Montgomery Dial for 163 Models
RARE RARE 16 size 23j Bunn Special Glass Enameled Montgomery Dial for 163 Models
$1,600.00
Time Remaining: 3d 13h 41m
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VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE
VINTAGE ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE
$449.00
Time Remaining: 3d 14h 40m
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A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND 18s 24 JEWELS Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND 18s 24 JEWELS Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch
$1,534.50
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 50m
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J MISSING 60 HR MOTOR BARREL FOR REPAIR
ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH 21J MISSING 60 HR MOTOR BARREL FOR REPAIR
$200.00 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 15h 57m

Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
Antique Illinois 60 hour 16s Bunn Special 21 jewel Rail Road pocket watch 1927
$327.99 (10 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 17h 1m

Super TRIPLE MARKED 1928 Illinois Bunn Special SIXTY HOUR Railroad Pocketwatch
Super TRIPLE MARKED 1928 Illinois Bunn Special SIXTY HOUR Railroad Pocketwatch
$227.57 (11 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 31m

RARE 18s ILLINOIS 24 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH PORC DIAL JUST SERVICED
RARE 18s ILLINOIS 24 JEWEL BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH PORC DIAL JUST SERVICED
$325.56 (12 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 19h 42m

ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47330 16s SANGAMO SPECIAL  BUNN SPECIAL MODELS
ILLINOIS MAINSPRING 47330 16s SANGAMO SPECIAL BUNN SPECIAL MODELS
$15.95
Time Remaining: 4d 7h 3m
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VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOS 21J BUNN SPECIAL 2 TONE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT FROM 1902
VINTAGE 18 SIZE ILLINOS 21J BUNN SPECIAL 2 TONE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT FROM 1902
$248.40
Time Remaining: 4d 7h 49m
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railroad pocket watch 21 jewel bunn special by Illinois watch co usa
railroad pocket watch 21 jewel bunn special by Illinois watch co usa
$329.99
Time Remaining: 4d 13h 54m
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Rare 1924 Branded Excellent ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Watch Stainless Steel Case
Rare 1924 Branded Excellent ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL Watch Stainless Steel Case
$172.50 (24 Bids)
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 1m

Atq Illinois Bunn Special 60 hr 18s 21 Jewel Gold Fill Railroad Pocket Watch
Atq Illinois Bunn Special 60 hr 18s 21 Jewel Gold Fill Railroad Pocket Watch
$399.99
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 30m
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FABULOUS 1926 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MOTOR BARREL IN BUNN SPECIAL CASE
FABULOUS 1926 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MOTOR BARREL IN BUNN SPECIAL CASE
$599.99
Time Remaining: 4d 19h 56m
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RARE 16 SIZE STEM SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL WRIST WATCH
RARE 16 SIZE STEM SET ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL WRIST WATCH
$600.00
Time Remaining: 5d 8h 52m

1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
1900 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J 24J BUNN SPECIAL
$1,145.00
Time Remaining: 5d 9h 43m
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ILLINOIS Bunn Special 1898 18 size 21 Jewel Open Face Pocket Watch Serviced
ILLINOIS Bunn Special 1898 18 size 21 Jewel Open Face Pocket Watch Serviced
$114.38 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 5d 14h 10m

Illinois Antique Bunn Special 21J RAILROAD PW ca 1918 Fabulouse Cond Serviced
Illinois Antique Bunn Special 21J RAILROAD PW ca 1918 Fabulouse Cond Serviced
$425.00
Time Remaining: 5d 14h 22m
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Circa 1922 Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special 21 Jewel Movement 60 Hour Size 16
Circa 1922 Illinois Pocket Watch Bunn Special 21 Jewel Movement 60 Hour Size 16
$399.95
Time Remaining: 5d 18h 1m

ILLINOIS 23J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH NICE ILLINOIS WATCH CASE 1923
ILLINOIS 23J BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH NICE ILLINOIS WATCH CASE 1923
$89.00 (4 Bids)
Time Remaining: 5d 19h 21m

Illinois 16s 21J 161 Bunn Special 60 Hour Motor Barrel Railroad
Illinois 16s 21J 161 Bunn Special 60 Hour Motor Barrel Railroad
$1,225.00
Time Remaining: 5d 19h 36m
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An Almost PERFECT 16 Size 23 Jewel 60 Hour 163 IL Bunn Special RR Grade PW
An Almost PERFECT 16 Size 23 Jewel 60 Hour 163 IL Bunn Special RR Grade PW
$2,371.50
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 31m
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
A VERY RARE COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
$1,999.50
Time Remaining: 5d 20h 42m
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MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
MENS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL VINTAGE 10K GF POCKET WATCH KEY FOB KNIFE 50mm
$789.00
Time Remaining: 6d 1h 44m
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
A VERY RARE COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
$519.79 (19 Bids)
Time Remaining: 6d 4h 1m

1925 Illinois 21j 16s Pocket Watch Clean Dial RUNS Bunn Special 60hr Vintage N1
1925 Illinois 21j 16s Pocket Watch Clean Dial RUNS Bunn Special 60hr Vintage N1
$499.99
Time Remaining: 6d 6h 33m
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
$1,295.00
Time Remaining: 6d 9h 1m
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