Bunn Special

1923 illinois pocket watch.model 29?

What is the difference in value or rarity between a bunn special or an abe lincoln special. I see everything has bunn special. But I can't find anything on the abe lincoln.
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that is the pictures of it

The A. Lincoln was a step lower in the Illinois line-up than the Bunn Special. The principle difference was that the Bunn Special was adjusted to 6 positions, and the A. Lincoln only to 5 positions.

Cosmetically, the A. Lincoln has a simple straight line damaskeen, while the Bunn Special had either a "Sunburst" damaskeen that, on 16 size models, was centered on the 4th wheel, or alternatively a fishscale pattern. Also, 16s Bunns had a full gold train, and Lincolns had a gold center wheel.

Both were excellent watches at the time. The A. Lincoln was roughly comparable to the extremely popular Hamilton 992. For whatever reason, the A. Lincoln just doesn't generate the collector interest that the Bunn does.

As far as rarity-I just checked the production numbers from Dr. Russ Snyder's Illinois Database. Comparing all variations of 16 size A. Lincoln to all variations of 16 size Bunn Special, the production was about equal.

EDIT:

Appears to be from the last run of 16 size A. Lincolns, which were in the serial block 4,490,001 to 4,491,000. There were a total of 26,985 16 size model 9 A. Lincolns made.

The case on that one does NOT appear to me to be original or correct. I would not expect to see a 1923 Illinois in a Hamilton signed case(although this is correct for later Illinois watches). The case this watch is in is a model not introduced until 1927.

Also, the amount of rust on the movement doesn't support the statement that it sat in a display case for 50 years.

VINTAGE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL TYPE III RAILROAD GRADE WATCH 14K GLD FILLED CASE
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ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 16S 21J 1921 RAILROAD GRADE ANTIQUE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT
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Illinois Bunn Special Pocket Watch 16 size 1919
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1928 ILLINOIS BUNN Special 16s 21J 60 Hour Pocket Watch + Bunn Spec Case + Monty
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ANTIQUE ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21j GOLD FILLED OPEN FACE RAILROAD POCKET WATCH
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1916 18 size ILLINOISRailroad Gold Filled Pocket Watch 23J BUNN SPECIAL
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$70.00 (3 Bids)
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Antique Illinois Bunn Special 60hr Original Case G F Rail Road NICE WJP4 0073
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ILLINOIS 16S 23J 60HR BUNN SPECIAL IN 2 TONE MODEL 173 14KT GOLD FILLED CASE
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ILLINOIS WATCH Co BUNN SPECIAL USA 16 SIZE 21 JEWELS POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT 1920
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$255.00 (23 Bids)
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$167.51 (13 Bids)
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Time Remaining: 2d 1h 35m

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$102.00 (7 Bids)
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1926 Vintage Illinois Open Face Pocket Watch 10K Gold Bunn Special 23 Jewels
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$360.00 (6 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 8h 46m

A 98 PERFECT 16 Size 23 Jewel 60 Hour 163 IL Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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$2,250.00
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A VERY RARE  COLLECTABLE 16s 23J 60 Hour Illinois Bunn Special RR Grade PW
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1925 Illinois 21j 16s Pocket Watch Clean Dial RUNS Bunn Special 60hr Vintage N1
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Illinois 18 size 21 jewel Bunn Special 2 tone Pocket watch
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$172.49 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 2d 22h 56m

VINTAGE 1923 BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS GOLD FILLED POCKET WATCH
VINTAGE 1923 BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL ILLINOIS GOLD FILLED POCKET WATCH
$254.99
Time Remaining: 2d 23h 48m

Illinois 60 hour Bunn Special gold filled pocket watch 21 jewel 16 size
Illinois 60 hour Bunn Special gold filled pocket watch 21 jewel 16 size
$250.00
Time Remaining: 2d 23h 48m
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1904 Illinois Watch Co Bunn special Pocket watch
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$500.00
Time Remaining: 3d 43m
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Antique Illinois Bunn Special 21 Jewels Pocket Watch
$280.00
Time Remaining: 3d 55m

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BUNN SPECIAL WHITE GOLD FILLED CASE
$13.50 (2 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 2h 2m

A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND 18s 24 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL POCKET WATCH
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Time Remaining: 3d 2h 10m
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Illinois Rare Antique 10k Rolled Gold Plate Case Bunn Special Pocket Watch
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$899.00
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ILLINOIS Bunn Special Watch Dial Measures 1 3 4 Excellent Condition
$22.00
Time Remaining: 3d 3h 16m

Illinois Bunn Special Rail Road Pocket watch 60 hour Motor Size 16 RUNNING
Illinois Bunn Special Rail Road Pocket watch 60 hour Motor Size 16 RUNNING
$599.00
Time Remaining: 3d 3h 38m
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16 SIZE ILLINOIS 60 HOUR RAILROAD BUNN SPECIAL 21 JEWEL GF OPEN FACE POCKETWATCH
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Time Remaining: 3d 4h 5m
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16 SIZE 23 JEWEL ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL IN MODEL 1 CASE
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$700.00
Time Remaining: 3d 4h 57m

GREAT HIGH GRADE ILLINOIS 21J BUNN SPECIAL ANTIQUE POCKET WATCH MONTGOMERY DIAL
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$54.00 (13 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 6h 42m

Antique Illinois Bunn Special 21J 18S Ruby Jewels GF 20yr Phil Case Runs
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$150.00 (7 Bids)
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MINTY ILLINOIS BLINDMAN ARROWS IN 16S DRESS RR DIAL SS SWISS REPRO BUNN SPECIAL
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$0.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 7h 21m

Illinois 21J Bunn Special Rail Road Pocket Watch 16s Monty Dial Double Roller
Illinois 21J Bunn Special Rail Road Pocket Watch 16s Monty Dial Double Roller
$122.50 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 7h 46m

Vintage Illinois 18S Bunn Special 21J Antique Railroad Watch Marked 6 Positions
Vintage Illinois 18S Bunn Special 21J Antique Railroad Watch Marked 6 Positions
$100.00 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 7h 46m

Custom Dial BUNN SPECIAL ILLINOIS Pocket Watch 18s 24j Kingsburys B
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$308.03 (25 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 8h

1919 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21J POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT RUNS
1919 16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL 21J POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT RUNS
$45.00 (8 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 9h 11m

16S DS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL DS POCKET WATCH DIAL
16S DS ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL DS POCKET WATCH DIAL
$5.99 (1 Bid)
Time Remaining: 3d 9h 13m

16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MODEL 14K GOLD FILLED POCKET WATCH CASE W CRYSTAL
16S ILLINOIS BUNN SPECIAL MODEL 14K GOLD FILLED POCKET WATCH CASE W CRYSTAL
$69.00 (12 Bids)
Time Remaining: 3d 9h 38m

Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 1906 Antique 21 Jewel Gold Plated Pocket Watch
Illinois Watch Co Bunn Special 1906 Antique 21 Jewel Gold Plated Pocket Watch
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Time Remaining: 3d 14h 19m

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